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Post by ryanretro on Aug 3, 2016 6:05:38 GMT
Do you think Sega could copy Nintendo and release a master system mini classic ?.
I got to say I think Nintendo's decision to release the nes mini is a master stroke, I can see them shifting huge numbers of these.
The games listed are spot on, the design and packaging are great, the price point is also fine,
People with found memories of this console will be tempted by this over Christmas.
I'm not sure if Sega would ever follow suit with the master system, but it would be cool if they did, with HDMI this would be great in the living room on the big tv.
It would be a chance for the more casual fans of the console to play the classic games without spending very much.
A couple of years ago I purchased a similar megadrive console with a great selection of games built in, However I was far from impressed with the picture and sound, it's been consigned to it's box for eternity.
I have the nes mini pre ordered, I do own a nes but the games are outrageously expensive at times , so this will be an ideal way to play the games while I slowly build up my collection.
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Post by englishinvader on Aug 3, 2016 10:14:14 GMT
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Post by ryanretro on Aug 3, 2016 14:08:06 GMT
I think perhaps something more polished would be needed to interest the masses here in the uk. An actual miniature mk1 master system with the old style box. Put all the classics on it and have HDMI out and it could appeal to those who haven't picked up a master system controller in years but loved it back in the day. The mini Atari 2600 sells in Argos for 40 or 50 quid , so their is a market for these remakes. |
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Post by englishinvader on Aug 3, 2016 16:30:45 GMT
I think there would be a lot more mass appeal if they did a mini SMS 2 because that's the one that sold the most. Back in the early 90s, it retailed for £59.99 and, for many people, it was an affordable entry into console gaming and a very welcome upgrade from the Speccy.
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Post by Transatlantic Foe on Aug 3, 2016 16:43:32 GMT
Sega have farmed out Mega Drive emulator consoles that are largely pointless due to weak emulation but at least they let you play more games. NES Mini not supporting more titles is dumb. Okay so a ROM free for all is not what they want to encourage but it could have a marketplace to download new games at a quid a pop... or mini cartridges with new batches of games on. Anything but "here's an adorable mini console but lol why would anyone want to play games other than what we put on?", which is what NES Mini is.
Given that so few SMS titles have seen re-releases, I doubt there's an appetite for Sega to do likewise. Retro gaming as a culture is ludicrously US-centric, which is why Atari and Nintendo can get hype around 80s re-releases and most don't realise the SMS had titles released past 1991.
The NES Mini will be a success because it can tap into a huge casual retro market. It's inferior to an actual console and to an emulator on PC. Even if an SMS version removed the onboard games only limitation, you'd have a small market - American wouldn't care, Brazil already has plenty of SMS variants, so would Europe and Australia be enough? I don't think the retro portion of the gaming market there is anywhere near enough to make it worthwhile.
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Post by ryanretro on Aug 3, 2016 17:29:21 GMT
Sega have farmed out Mega Drive emulator consoles that are largely pointless due to weak emulation but at least they let you play more games. NES Mini not supporting more titles is dumb. Okay so a ROM free for all is not what they want to encourage but it could have a marketplace to download new games at a quid a pop... or mini cartridges with new batches of games on. Anything but "here's an adorable mini console but lol why would anyone want to play games other than what we put on?", which is what NES Mini is. Given that so few SMS titles have seen re-releases, I doubt there's an appetite for Sega to do likewise. Retro gaming as a culture is ludicrously US-centric, which is why Atari and Nintendo can get hype around 80s re-releases and most don't realise the SMS had titles released past 1991. The NES Mini will be a success because it can tap into a huge casual retro market. It's inferior to an actual console and to an emulator on PC. Even if an SMS version removed the onboard games only limitation, you'd have a small market - American wouldn't care, Brazil already has plenty of SMS variants, so would Europe and Australia be enough? I don't think the retro portion of the gaming market there is anywhere near enough to make it worthwhile. Yeah the master systems Achilles heal " the north American market " strikes again, it's a shame because something like this would provide Americans with a chance to explore the console. Sometimes a big youtuber will cover the sms and the comments will all be like " yeah this looks great I never knew about this " With regards to the nes mini being restricted to 30 games I think the got all their main first party titles and just wanted to pay the least amount possible to capcom, konami etc for their games. It's still a strong line up for the price. Maybe depending on the success their will be a nes mini 2 with more games, the Atari flashback is on its 6th revision now. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 5, 2016 7:14:44 GMT
They are always bringing out mini consoles, I saw recently while looking for my children's Christmas present ideas an Atari flashback, I also brought the mega drive one as a gift for a retro gamer and it ended up on eBay... I think gamers like the original stuff as that is were the memories lie... blowing in cartridges and unsuccessful loading haha. I don't think these will ever be successful, they are just a novelty.
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Post by ian on Aug 5, 2016 8:36:14 GMT
It's a good question. I would love to see an official high-quality mini SMS product, I'd buy it instantly. I agree with what others have said, in that targeting the European market would be the only viable option financially. Would it sell well enough over here though? I'm not so sure. Although the SMS was more popular here than the NES was, I believe that a combination of Nintendo's constant presence over the years (especially the Mario & Zelda franchises) and the opinions of NES-biased Americans having an influence, has somehow made more the NES more desirable/popular. Perhaps TecToy might take advantage of the hype and produce a mini-SMS anyway. I'd have reservations over the quality of the product but I'd probably still buy it. There's just something about a 'mini' version of a console I love  |
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Post by flatapex on Aug 5, 2016 12:00:35 GMT
We have sort of seen one courtesy of blaze/atgames, the handheld one.
Not sure if I would get one, I have 3 sms already and an everdrive, plus a cpw modded psp
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Post by Retrobob on Aug 5, 2016 14:03:09 GMT
I love that they use the 6 button pad for SMS games.
Does anyknow know what the other buttons are used for?
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Post by playgeneration on Aug 5, 2016 21:38:53 GMT
A HDMI equipped console would be a nice additional system that I could use on my big modern TV. If it had a cartridge slot or could play rom images then it would be a must have - and would probably replace a lot if not most of the console sales on ebay. I'd say there's a market for a console you don't need a CRT TV to get the best picture from. The SMS looks like crap on my Sony flat screen. I've been tempted to buy a RetroRon 5 console recently.
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Post by tap on Aug 6, 2016 5:20:20 GMT
Sega has already licensed out a few retro consoles, namely the ones flatapex mentioned, but all the ones I've played have felt pretty shoddy compared to the originals. They emulate the games poorly, have washed-out colors and get the sound wrong too.
Likewise, the Retron 5 is pretty crummy and not worth your time. Updating the system's firmware was a pain in the butt, and a lot of the features they touted either didn't work, or were buggy as hell. I tried to use one to backup the saves on my games to an SD card, and it ended up erasing all but one of the handful of cartridges I tried.
Honestly, just keep an old CRT around if you can spare the room. If that really isn't an option for you, you could buy a scaler instead, but that creates its own set of problems.
You could also just plug your computer into your tv and play the games through an emulator. Because let's face it, that mini NES is really just a dolled-up ROM box but with significantly less functionality.
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Post by ryanretro on Aug 6, 2016 8:22:52 GMT
A HDMI equipped console would be a nice additional system that I could use on my big modern TV. If it had a cartridge slot or could play rom images then it would be a must have - and would probably replace a lot if not most of the console sales on ebay. I'd say there's a market for a console you don't need a CRT TV to get the best picture from. The SMS looks like crap on my Sony flat screen. I've been tempted to buy a RetroRon 5 console recently. Yeah I keep a retron at my girlfriends place, perfect for the HD TV, played everything I've thrown at it. I'm surprised they have held their value for so long, must be shifting them. I can't see a HDMI equipped sms anytime soon sadly, was just looking at the new atgames megadrive which is planned for later this year and it's exactly the same terrible model I got a few years ago only with a few different games. It's surprising Sega have not taken away the licensing from them yet That will be the difference with the upcoming nes mini, Nintendo wont cut any corners. |
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Post by legend on Aug 6, 2016 17:50:31 GMT
I think it would sell well, but nothing major in the U.S., since Nintendo controlled us back in the day. With so many people who never had one, put the proper games on, and it could do well. A lot of people, thanks to YouTube and such, have finally seen for the first time SMS games. True, they can emulate and all, but with the retro scene blown up as big as it is, it could do well.
Granted, we don't need an overflow, like the Atari Flashbacks, or those Colecovisions...I see those things just sitting there. I wouldn't put as many games on it, since at $60 I doubt it would sell well, but put about 10-20, and it could do well. Outside U.S., the games would be different and would sell very well imo.
I would buy a SMS mini truth be told. Granted, I love the original hardware and importing, but a mini would be a cool idea. However, with how Sega has done their stuff for a while, it would probably be a load of crap, sad to say.
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Post by tap on Aug 6, 2016 20:06:59 GMT
I wish Sega would release some more compilation discs. That Genesis collection they released for the PS3/360 was excellent.
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