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Post by ryanretro on Aug 6, 2016 20:32:40 GMT
I wish Sega would release some more compilation discs. That Genesis collection they released for the PS3/360 was excellent. Yeah it was, I played comic zone for the first time with that and thought it was excellent, i wish sega would do more with their franchise's in general, granted the new sonic looks promising but they have so much material going to waste,
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Post by englishinvader on Aug 7, 2016 0:33:34 GMT
I wish Sega would release some more compilation discs. That Genesis collection they released for the PS3/360 was excellent. Yeah it was, I played comic zone for the first time with that and thought it was excellent, i wish sega would do more with their franchise's in general, granted the new sonic looks promising but they have so much material going to waste, My only complaint with the Ultimate Collection is that it doesn't include Revenge of Shinobi or Shadow Dancer. Criminal omissions IMO. I think a retro compilation would be the way to go for the SMS in the US as it wouldn't be as expensive as a mini console and might tempt the casual retro enthusiasts.
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Post by ShadowAngel on Aug 8, 2016 12:48:11 GMT
My only complaint with the Ultimate Collection is that it doesn't include Revenge of Shinobi or Shadow Dancer. Criminal omissions IMO. Blame Germany for Shadow Dancer. The game is still banned here. Sega included the game for the PS2 version of the Mega Drive collection but where informed about the ban status. Instead of paying for re-check (and removal) of the game from the banned list (like recently Microsoft did to get Gears of War unbanned), they simply cut it out for the european version and didn't include it in the later PS3/Xbox 360 version. Curiously it and Revenge of Shinobi are included in the Sega Mega Drive & Genesis Classics available for PC on Steam even here in Germany. As for a Master System Mini: I don't think the market is big enough. Yes, "retro-gaming" is still a fad but the Master System was never all that popular and still isn't popular enough. For Sega systems there's generally only interest in two Systems: The Mega Drive and for whatever reason the Dreamcast. People rarely talk about the MS or even the Saturn which is a shame (both are miles ahead of the crappy Dreamcast imo)
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Post by Transatlantic Foe on Aug 8, 2016 18:30:12 GMT
I wish Sega would release some more compilation discs. That Genesis collection they released for the PS3/360 was excellent. The games are always the same which makes me think they wrote an emulator once and have been porting it ever since, probably with the odd tweak if it's easy done. In all seriousness it has a bunch of essential titles amongst the odd piece of dated junk like Super Thunder Blade. And anything that exposes more people to the genius of Gain Ground is welcome. A similar SMS compilation would work better than a clone console I reckon.
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Post by flatapex on Aug 10, 2016 6:56:44 GMT
Its all to do with licenses, they port what is licensed and repeat with new additions each time.
Any new game should in theory be 'sega all stars' and include as much as sega can license.
In my best bill lumbergh voice 'if they could go ahead and put that on a 3ds cart, that would be great'
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Post by kungfukid on Aug 12, 2016 11:38:06 GMT
A HDMI equipped console would be a nice additional system that I could use on my big modern TV. If it had a cartridge slot or could play rom images then it would be a must have - and would probably replace a lot if not most of the console sales on ebay. I'd say there's a market for a console you don't need a CRT TV to get the best picture from. The SMS looks like crap on my Sony flat screen. I've been tempted to buy a RetroRon 5 console recently. I bought a Retron 5 a few months ago, and although I know it has a lot of critics on the interwebs, I actually like it, and don't mind the controllers at all. The different filters are useful for maximising the graphical potential of games for each of the different systems, and I personally haven't had any problems with the system. I've not tried every format on it to be fair, have only been playing SMS, NES, Megadrive, and GB / GBA games on it so far, but yet to encounter any problems. I'd recommend it.
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Post by legend on Aug 13, 2016 15:32:53 GMT
I thought twice on buying one, and I won't. I really don't want to pay for ROMs that I already have. Second, Nintendo is a jerk company.
Many of us were blinded as children, but when you think about it, they screwed people over so badly. Create a monopoly so developers can't develop for othet systems? I know companies aren't perfect, but people have preached the glory of N for a long time, blinded by how horrible they are.
SMS is the real awesome around here, and while older consoles such as NES have some good games, I long ago refused to support them anymore. People will jump on it for retro coolness, not realizing they can get the ROMs for free...all they are doing is paying for a piece of plastic shaped like a NES.
Sadly, we know it won't fail due to nostaligia factors for too many people. Dammit...I am playing some SMS tonite...glory to the true King! Master System!
Sorry guys...just mad at N for a lot of reasons...I am tired...had to rant.
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Post by marceloagdb on Sept 6, 2016 18:43:23 GMT
I see a lot of stuff here that many people posts about on the internet, meaning some of you don't get the Nes Mini purpose.
The console is made for those people who know how to use an emulator and want to experience nostalgia as close as possible, just a little more "modern".
This, the console was resized to fit everywhere in a room and don't occupy much space and uses Hdmi to connnect to modern televisions.
They are making a new emulator from scratch só they don't screw it Like the WiiU, and got licenses for top really beloved games that were probably cheap to get. No games for distribution means no money spent on more licenses and no " extra hassle" for uber casuals, plus no extra hardware needed for the console (WiFi, SD card reader, cartridge reader,not even bluetooth for pads.)
But the mostra important part is...ITS A NINTENDO PRODUCT! And that Alone makes people feel more secure than buying those Atgames or hyperkin and all other brands of clones. They are going for quality, the market they want is set, and they will sell out fast.
All of this means that a SMS mini had to be pure sega, have a really good selection of games for all markets, not just US, and make some great advertisement. The problem is that EU and BR got a lot of great SMS games (sega ones too) and US did not (plus they didnt get the SMS 2, and most EU people know that one). It could be a way to introduce some of them, but that sounds risky, not a good real for the uber casuals the system at to be marketed.
Lets face it, the SMS is a niche... Now the Mega Drive\Genesis on the other hand...
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Post by Centrale on Sept 7, 2016 19:11:03 GMT
I'm not sure if some of your statements are typos or not, but a few points... I doubt most people who buy the NES Mini will have ever heard of emulators, much less know how to use them and how to get ROMs. Sure, some will, but the lion's share of the market will probably be people giving it as a gift to retro NES enthusiasts and parents who grew up with the NES giving it to their kids.
Also, I'm not so sure the third party classics they got the licenses for were "cheap..." if cheapness was the goal they would just throw Balloon Fight and various other little known first party games on it and be done with it.
Lastly, the SMS 2 did come out in the U.S. But I agree that if a Sega Mini console was to have a good shot at success in the U.S., it would have to be focused on the Genesis, although it would be fine if it included SMS games as well.
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Post by legend on Sept 8, 2016 1:57:17 GMT
SMS is a niche? Um, NO! It is only a friggin AMAZING console with lots of great games. Even in my trivial experience, I know this.
And honestly, the REAL main purpose of the NES Mini is to make money cause people realized long ago how crappy Nintendo is, and how crummy they truly are...and a lot of people moved on from Nintendo. Their Wii U joke system has failed so they need to make up for it in some way.
NoA just knows how nostalgic people are, and how retro collecting is "cool", so they just want to cash in. The NES Mini is crap, a rubbish emulator in a NES replica box. It will appeal to a lot of people, even people who have multiple copies of these games already on various Nintendo systems.
The game list is trash, and though $2 is nice, if I want to create a list of 30 ROMs or whatever, I will choose them myself. But hey, if people want to pay money for ROMs that they probably already downloaded to their computer, hacked handheld, or whatevr, more power to them. I will save my $60 and use it on some SMS games.
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Post by KnightWarrior on Nov 30, 2016 21:17:19 GMT
Do this
Get a RetroPie, Get someone do a 3D Model of the SMS2 with 2 USB Ports
You got a Master System Mini
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Post by alianger on Dec 9, 2016 16:27:49 GMT
The game list is trash, and though $2 is nice, if I want to create a list of 30 ROMs or whatever, I will choose them myself. But hey, if people want to pay money for ROMs that they probably already downloaded to their computer, hacked handheld, or whatevr, more power to them. I will save my $60 and use it on some SMS games. If you could expand the library, digitally or with special carts for the system, then emulator or not it would be a lot cooler. It would also be a way to pay for the games and show that there is a market for them. Sega could add support for the modding community at Steam with online accessibility, giving the games longer life. But let's be realistic, it would probably be a Mega Drive with SMS support built in. The SMS might've been popular in the UK and Brazil, but was not mainstream in the US, Japan and Scandinavia.
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