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Post by playgeneration on Nov 13, 2009 12:48:52 GMT
Just played, and finished this in about 10 minutes. It really is a piece of cake, just use the same simple moves over and over. Even in the ending one of the characters says "wheres the challenge?".
The story screens and overall graphics are nicely done, its quite a pretty game to look at. Problem is with the sms a fighting game has to be compromised in one way or another. Mortal Kombat for intance has large characters, but theres not enough memory to hold many animation frames for them, plus it often hits the eight sprites per line limit causing flickering. But the gameplay is still there.
VF has really nicely animated characters with plenty of frames so their movement is fluid, but the downside is they had to be tiny to achieve this. And while the characters animate nicely I find the controls quite sluggish, and its just not much fun to play. You might have a good variety of moves, but if you don't even need them to win at all, whats the point. Plus the transition from GG hasn't been too kind, the letterbox view is annoying, especially when played in PAL 50hz where the actual playing area is really small.
Its a game not totally without merit, but MK is far nicer to play. Then Masters of Combat, which is a better comparison (using smaller sprites also) is also way better than VF, despite its lack of characters and slightly rough visuals - I'd say it makes the best use of a 2 button pad of all the sms fighting games.
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Post by Transatlantic Foe on Nov 13, 2009 19:01:59 GMT
Sorry, I'm briefly going on a bit of a hijack... To be honest, i love 1on1 Fighting games, but only on the Neo Geo. If you ever experience Garou, King of Fighters or Fatal Fury you'll never go back to older stuff. While Street Fighter II Special Championship Edition on the Mega Drive is great, everything else sucks and that includes that game. Our local pizza shop back home used to have an arcade machine that was switched between the likes of Metal Slug, Final Fight and the Neo Geo beat 'em ups. I don't remember much about them (apart from being faeces at them), I think they had Art of Fighting and Fatal Fury at least during its run, but I think a load of the Neo Geo beat 'em ups are on Virtual Console. Are there a couple that really stand out?
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Post by theycallmeknuckles on Nov 14, 2009 0:44:23 GMT
mark of the wolves is supposedly the pinnacle of the series, but I think that's on the dreamcast. I used to have fatal fury special on the game gear, which was amazing but I recently played the megadrive version on XBLA and it was very sluggish and unresponsive. Most of these game play great on their original system but don't really shine on the new systems download services I think.
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Post by ShadowAngel on Nov 14, 2009 2:50:05 GMT
Are there a couple that really stand out? Garou: Mark of the Wolves is a Neo Geo Game, it was ported to some systems, though i don't know if they're any good) In the US it is also known as Fatal Fury: Mark of the Wolves, because it is just a part of the Fatal Fury series, the final one on the Neo Geo and the best one. Fatal Fury Special is also great Real Bout Fatal Fury Special is also a good game. King of Fighters is something like the "Ultimate Megamix" of all SNK Fighting Games, you find all the Fighters from the other fighting games there. King of Fighters '98 is in my oppinion the best part right. KoF 2001 is also very good Samurai Shodown is a weapon-based Fighting game and also good. Parts IV and V (Special) are the best there. Waku Waku 7 is a humorous and bizarre fighting game, with some weird characters. Definitely worth a try.
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Post by Stan on Nov 21, 2009 22:31:34 GMT
Alright, finally gave this game a thorough go. Personally, I like it. Sure, it's not the greatest fighting game out there, but it has some impressive features. The story mode is great, I like how they incorporate the characters into the story when you have to fight each of them, really feels like they fleshed the ideas out well.
The problems I have with it are, as mentioned already, it's way too easy. Absolutely no challenge here, and it has that classic fighter problem of the player resorting to button-mashing 90% of the time. It also moves quite slow. However, in spite of this, there are quite a number of moves to learn. If the gameplay was sped up a tad that would have made it pretty dang good. Learning the moves is fun, and learning to apply them is cool, but you can pretty much endlessly kick everyone and get to the end. I don't think it deserves the hate it gets, but it definitely needed some more polishing.
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Post by kungfukid on Dec 16, 2009 0:18:28 GMT
Don't understand anybody that tries to justify saying that this game is in any single way better than MK1 / 2 or Masters of Combat, they must have severe mental issues....
As per my review on the main site I'd repeat - rubbish graphics, poor animation, easy to the point that you could literally complete the whole game with your eyes closed just hitting buttons (I'm going to try this to prove the point and I DON'T think I'll be proved wrong), horrible sound. This game would have been acceptable had it come out in 1986, but was utterly unacceptable given the standard of games that came out before it.
The fact that the graphics for the presentation screens and ongoing story aren't half bad doesn't mean a thing and counts for nothing, as this is not repeated in the game itself.
I draw comparisons with Championship Hockey and this game, as in spite of all I've just written I do quite enjoy playing it, but that's due to just HOW bad it is. I think I'm kind of in awe that somebody actually gave the okay for it to be released!
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Post by Phil on Dec 16, 2009 20:03:08 GMT
Compared to Championship Hockey VF Animation is pure class! As far as fighting games are concerned it's one of the weaker ones but it's not the worst SMS game. Not by a long shot!
I had fun the other week completing it with each character. I mean the Game Gear version got half decent reviews like 75% as I seem to recall back in the day....maybe cos it was the one of last GG games....
The graphics aren't great but I guess they looked better on a tiny GG screen, on a big TV they do look far too simplistic and a bit naff. I would have preferred a decent version of SMS Street Fighter 2 than this conversion...but I guess it's now cemented a place in VF History as one of it's worst versions
On reflection maybe I was a little harsh on this game the other week. The music and story sequences in between save this game from being a total disaster. But I don't think it's worth any serious play, it's ok as a novelty as a quick go now and again...
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