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Post by onyx on Jul 15, 2004 3:34:40 GMT
just another thought ?
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Post by anagrama on Jul 15, 2004 9:51:01 GMT
That they are born in Scotland.
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Post by Sinistral on Jul 15, 2004 16:03:25 GMT
Well, i am scottish, so i would have to say some of them i like, others i dont.(pretty much like anywhere)
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Post by Retrobob on Jul 15, 2004 17:39:51 GMT
I've been there quite a bit and love the countryside (not that it's much different to Irish/English/Welsh for that matter).
I went out with a Scottish girl - got called an English C**t a couple of times, and her uncle when he found out she had a boyfriend at Uni (in England) said "I hope he's not English". It makes me laugh how anti English some of them are - but we dont care! It's a bit like the Kiwis hating the Aussies.
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Post by Sinistral on Jul 15, 2004 17:51:28 GMT
I does go both ways y'know.
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Post by Retrobob on Jul 15, 2004 17:54:21 GMT
Really? I've never heard anyone say a bad word about someone just because they were scottish  As you said, you like some, you don't like others. It doesn't matter where people are from, some people you will like, some you wont! |
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Post by allyharp on Jul 18, 2004 17:15:57 GMT
I'm Scottish too and I've never really known any English people to act anti-Scottish like we do to them. It's only really apparant when there's football on though, and maybe during last year's rugby too.
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Post by transbot on Jul 18, 2004 18:30:27 GMT
Celts are overrated.
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Post by Retrobob on Jul 18, 2004 21:21:40 GMT
I'm Scottish too and I've never really known any English people to act anti-Scottish like we do to them. It's only really apparant when there's football on though, and maybe during last year's rugby too. It's different in sport, obviously everyone's allowed to be racist then  |
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Post by Sinistral on Jul 19, 2004 1:22:34 GMT
I feel i can offer a bit of a unique perspective on this subject, i have a scottish father and an english mother, i was born in dumfries (about 30 miles from carlisle), i consider myself scottish. and have been raised in glasgow. I am often asked by both sides as to whos "side" im on.
If i go to england, i am not accepted as i have a scottish accent. i have been called a "scottish dunker" "stupid blinking jock" etc and on one occasion refused to be served in bar in birmingham simply for having a scottish accent.
In scotland people who hear me can hear a slight "english twang" in my accent coming from my mother i guess and living so near the border. for this i am often called an "english a child conceived out of wedlock"
I really cant win, no matter where i go i will never be fully accepted by either side. But i think people in england seem to think that all scots hate them , so hate them in return and vice versa.
Perhaps hate is too strong a word, i think dislike or distrust is more appropriate. the reasons for this distrust? well english seem to think it goes back to ye olden days of english rule. but im sure most people in scotland dont even think about that nowdays (except after watching braveheart) im pretty sure that most of the dislike the scots have for the english stems from the current political union situation in the UK, where westminister has more control over scotland than our own assembly and with englands domination over the UK every other country in the world seems to think that Britian,England, Scotland, Northern Ireland and wales are the same country.
I also think it is important not to tar every person with the same brush, not everyone feels the same, i for one have no problems getting on with either side, lets all just get on with it now eh?
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Post by transbot on Jul 19, 2004 5:05:40 GMT
 man that's beautiful <rapturous ovation from the assembled gentlemen>
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man that's beautiful <rapturous ovation from the assembled gentlemen>