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Post by flatapex on May 27, 2016 22:22:56 GMT
Here is a theory I have, rare games were all rare for a reason.
I'll share a few thoughts with you all and see if we can decide what the rarest games are and the reason they were rare
Championship Hockey- late release (1995), hardly reviewed (2 reviews known, 1 x UK, 1 x France), misleading reviews (consoles+ gave it 80%? padded envelopes I think)
Ultimate Soccer- late-ish release (summer 1993), vastly inconsistent reviews (CVG gave it 12%, some sega mags gave it 80%+), saturated market, possibly hardly promoted.
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Post by gallos_11 on May 27, 2016 23:58:27 GMT
Nice subject!
Firstly we should separate rare games and expensive games. I personally consider Power Strike 2 just as expensive, not that rare to sell for £120 or more.
Also, rarity on Master System differs between countries. For example Ultimate Soccer is more common here in Greece or Home Alone in Germany.
I'm not aware of specific reasons as you described them, but would like to hear some opinions.
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Post by flatapex on May 28, 2016 7:42:02 GMT
Nice subject! Firstly we should separate rare games and expensive games. I personally consider Power Strike 2 just as expensive, not that rare to sell for £120 or more. Also, rarity on Master System differs between countries. For example Ultimate Soccer is more common here in Greece or Home Alone in Germany. I'm not aware of specific reasons as you described them, but would like to hear some opinions. I'll change the subject title so we can include everything that is 5 or above on the rarity list, basically stuff that requires effort or money. I think we will find reasons why particular games are more popular in certain places, the first smurfs game is uncommon here in the uk as it was not on tv around that time, whereas one of our main tv channels (of which we had 4) showed Warner Bros cartoons regularly, and by the time Tazmania came out there was a tv show. We probably won't find reasons as such, but opinions and maybe theories (which are basically opinions with evidence), which I think is the best we can hope for |
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Post by Transatlantic Foe on May 28, 2016 8:13:08 GMT
After 1994 major shops didn't stock SMS games, so anything newly released would be much harder to find - probably leading to lower print runs to account for the smaller distribution net.
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Post by nearbythiscafe on May 28, 2016 8:25:50 GMT
Did smurfs 2 ever receive an official UK release?
From experience my top 5 expensive games are (in no particular order):
Masters of combat
Power strike 2
Buggy run
Smurfs 2
Championship hockey
Then there is the lucky dime caper box set which is now near impossible to get, the last one on eBay reached over £900.
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Post by nearbythiscafe on May 28, 2016 8:30:17 GMT
Also is smurfs 2 that rare? Expensive yes but rare? I think not, if you ask the Italian seller on eBay he will list one almost immediately so to me that isn't a rare game.
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Post by ryanretro on May 28, 2016 11:03:53 GMT
The Italian guy has been selling 1 or 2 smurfs a month for 6 years now. Originally he posted a picture of a couple of shipping boxes, those have been long sold sso it's anyone's guess how many he has, if he was starting to run low no doubt he would be telling us. I can see smurfs 2 falling in price eventually
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Post by flatapex on May 28, 2016 11:10:21 GMT
If 3 people say on the thread they do not want smurfs 2 included as rare then it wont be researched, if 3 say they do before that happens then it will.
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Post by flatapex on May 28, 2016 13:16:24 GMT
The Italian guy has been selling 1 or 2 smurfs a month for 6 years now. Originally he posted a picture of a couple of shipping boxes, those have been long sold sso it's anyone's guess how many he has, if he was starting to run low no doubt he would be telling us. I can see smurfs 2 falling in price eventually Assuming 2 a month for 6 years is 144 known copies, add to that the Czech discoveries and that is 150+ Shipping boxes held 10 games per box? Possibly 12? Smurfs 2 is an easy way of a new full set collector drawing attention to themselves, no waiting, no effort, just buy it now and wait for postage from italy. |
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Post by jeremyduer290 on May 28, 2016 13:58:32 GMT
Can I ask why the Lucky Dime Caper Gift Set is so expensive?
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Post by nearbythiscafe on May 28, 2016 14:06:23 GMT
Can I ask why the Lucky Dime Caper Gift Set is so expensive? Because its now rarer than hens teeth! Probably not many made and of those that were not many survive today. Last year one sold for around £600 on eBay and earlier this year around £920. I bet the next one goes for over 1k. |
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Post by nearbythiscafe on May 28, 2016 14:10:14 GMT
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Post by flatapex on May 28, 2016 15:21:27 GMT
Can I ask why the Lucky Dime Caper Gift Set is so expensive? because they are like rocking horse droppings lol I think rupert knows more than me (in fact I am certain he does) but I seem to think they were something like double the cost of the game, and all it came with was a disney t-shirt and tape of disney songs. The average gamer with £60 in their pocket and a master system wouldn't be interested It would be the equivalent of a £70-ish premium on a game for a novelty cd and novelty t-shirt, yeah me neither |
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Post by retrokevretro on May 28, 2016 16:22:05 GMT
Can I ask why the Lucky Dime Caper Gift Set is so expensive? because they are like rocking horse droppings lol I think rupert knows more than me (in fact I am certain he does) but I seem to think they were something like double the cost of the game, and all it came with was a disney t-shirt and tape of disney songs. The average gamer with £60 in their pocket and a master system wouldn't be interested It would be the equivalent of a £70-ish premium on a game for a novelty cd and novelty t-shirt, yeah me neither The Lucky Dime Caper Gift Set was a genuinely limited edition item (Sega probably didn't expect to sell too many for reasons already pointed out) |
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Post by ShadowAngel on May 28, 2016 16:25:34 GMT
Championship Hockey- late release (1995), hardly reviewed (2 reviews known, 1 x UK, 1 x France), misleading reviews (consoles+ gave it 80%? padded envelopes I think) It was reviewed in a couple german magazines in mid-1995, though most of them list it as a Game Gear only game Anyway, it was reviewed in the Video Games 6/95 (19%), in the Playtime 7/95 (10%) and the Sega Magazin 6/95 (79%, they loved the game) altough i never ever saw it in any of the game stores i went into. At the time even the Mega Drive was dying and everything was about the Saturn and Playstation (and PC) so i'm not surprised though. |
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