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Post by Deleted on Nov 6, 2014 18:19:28 GMT
Does anyone think Tyson Kidd might be related to Alex? No! And that´s pretty good so
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Post by ShadowAngel on Nov 7, 2014 17:33:04 GMT
The funniest "conspiracy theory" I've heard about this is that they don't want people to see how bad their current episodic television is in comparison. Though I think the truth is it's not WWE footage, thus not a priority so they don't care about it. To be honest, i wouldn't be surprised if there's some truth behind it. Not that WWE is afraid of people turning on their current product when they see some awesome old-school stuff but more that people might realize that WWE's history revision is wrong. As evident by last Monday's Raw, WWE made a good job of brainwashing their crowd into thinking that WCW was "the devil" and at the same time a company that was run by incompetent fools who had no clue and Vince killed them because he's a wrestling genius. When you look through Wrestling Forums these days, you can see how much damage WWE did to the legacy of WCW, starting with people writing it "wCw" because that's how WWE made the Logo during the invasion look like over to reducing them to the years 1994-2001 and people thinking they only had 1 great PPV and everything else was crap outside of Rey Mysterio, Eddie Guerrero, Chris Jericho and the banned guy WWE is deeply afraid to even mention by name. Imagine Vince's face when he sees that AWA, WCW or ECW shows on the Network become more popular than the WWE program. He would turn red, explode and than place himself in front of a mirror screaming "You're fired!" Though I think the truth is it's not WWE footage, thus not a priority so they don't care about it. Well they paid quite a lot of money for the rights and the libraries, yet don't use them properly. Take the Curt Hennig "The Life and Times of Mr. Perfect" DVD: It was a disappointing release and all you get out of Hennig's 7 years in AWA is 2 (TWO!) matches. It's a joke how much they ignore the stuff they have.
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Post by Batman666 on Nov 8, 2014 5:06:31 GMT
lol@Vince & the mirror
Yeah, WWE's revisionist history, makes most of their historical documentaries (that are otherwise very well made) quite worthless. It's kind of funny that a wrestling company that is built on promoting characters can't promote a narrative about WCW that would actually be beneficiary to themselves. Wouldn't the achievement of winning the Monday Night Wars be much greater if they promoted WCW as a great foe that almost drove Vince out of business, rather than the narrative they like with the bumbling fool that got lucky with the nWo concept and Turners money but then crashed and burn over their own ignorance & stupidity.
But I guess Vince ego can't grasp the fact that his booking ideas weren't always the best, so it had to have been luck that they succeeded over him!
In a way, maybe it's fitting that they can't even promote the WCW narrative correct seeing as they are unwilling to even promote/push most of their wrestlers correct nowadays.
Yeah, the Perfect DVD is a great example of their view of history as well and how that teaches viewers that anything not WWE isn't important enough to waste too much time on. It sure is a waste of all those libraries. It almost feels like they are the wrestling equivalent of those extreme video game collectors that hog up multiple copies of a very rare game just so the value doesn't fall on their copy. Buy up all the wrestling libraries just so nobody else can benefit from them.
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Post by wayeK on Nov 10, 2014 7:17:10 GMT
Imagine Vince's face when he sees that AWA, WCW or ECW shows on the Network become more popular than the WWE program. He would turn red, explode and than place himself in front of a mirror screaming "You're fired!" Hahaaa!! thanks angel, I bursted Seriously though only 2 AWA matches were on that DVD?? at times like this I wish we had a facepalm smiley..
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Post by ShadowAngel on Nov 11, 2014 21:31:43 GMT
Yeah, WWE's revisionist history, makes most of their historical documentaries (that are otherwise very well made) quite worthless. It's kind of funny that a wrestling company that is built on promoting characters can't promote a narrative about WCW that would actually be beneficiary to themselves. Wouldn't the achievement of winning the Monday Night Wars be much greater if they promoted WCW as a great foe that almost drove Vince out of business, rather than the narrative they like with the bumbling fool that got lucky with the nWo concept and Turners money but then crashed and burn over their own ignorance & stupidity. It would make more sense than what WWE wants to make their fans believe about WCW that they just had luck and then raided the WWF of their talent and became successful with that because...that's simply the same way WWF worked in the 1980's: They never developed a character on their own, instead they grabbed talent left and right from AWA, UWF/Mid South, WCCW, NWA, Memphis and other places: Hogan was already a star in AWA, Randy Savage, Ted DiBiase, Curt Hennig, Jim Duggan, Brutus Beefcake where already established stars in their teritories. WWF just brought them over by promising more money and usually dumbed down the characters: Jim Duggan today is made fun of as being a dumb brawler who shouted USA USA all the time. Watch him in Mid South, he was ten times better and had an awesome feud with Ted DiBiase there. Same with the Bushwackers: Watch them as the Sheepherders in the late 70's/early 80's: one of the most hardcore tag teams out there and a far cry from their stupid comedy gimmick in the WWF. Even the Road Warriors got dumbed down the first minute they became the Legion of Doom, they weren't the big threat, the bulldozing tag team they were in the NWA and AWA before. But WWE running down WCW and pointing out their flaws, the same flaws WWE has today is the same that Jim Cornette pointed out to wrestlers in his UK Tour: You don't point out the flaws in your enemies, you point out their strengths and then say "I still beat you". Because pointing out the flaws and then losing or making the exact same flaws makes you look like an idiot and makes your enemy look stronger in comparison. Seriously though only 2 AWA matches were on that DVD?? at times like this I wish we had a facepalm smiley.. Yeah: Curt Hennig & Scott Hall vs. Jimmy Garvin & Steven Regal, the Tag Team title win Curt Hennig vs. Nick Bockwinkle, the World Championship win There were so many great matches from Hennig in AWA since he still wasn't coked up and his back wasn't as borked as it was later on in WWF. He had a great match against Jerry Lawler in 1988. Sgt. Slaughter, Curt Hennig & Scott Hall vs. The Fabulous Freebirds and Boris Zhukov from 1985 is an absolute must. Curt Hennig, Larry Hennig & The Crusher vs. The Road Warriors & Paul Ellering from 1985 and that's just the matches i can remember now. Fun Fact: Mick Foley commentates the Wrestlefest 88 match (vs. Terry Taylor) and tells a completely different story about how Curt Hennig got his Mr. Perfect name and gimmick to the story that's told in the Disc 1 Documentary. In the documentary it was acted like Hennig was always bound to be Mr. Perfect while Foley basically told the true story that the Mr. Perfect gimmick was originally planned for Terry Taylor who turned it down (and reggreted that decision 5 minutes later when he was turned into the Red Rooster) and Hennig was the second choice for it.
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Post by Batman666 on Nov 13, 2014 9:25:51 GMT
Old school promo talk 101, you don't trash talk your opponent because you will look like a fool when he beats you. Lol, yeah I bet Terry Taylor regrets that decision in hindsight
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Post by KnightWarrior on Feb 6, 2015 5:12:06 GMT
WWE Fast Lane is coming up
What do you thing about Sting/Triple H at Mania?
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Post by Batman666 on Feb 7, 2015 0:22:09 GMT
A February PPV really feels pointless now that they have taken out the Elimination Chamber PPV. I would much rather have them giving the WM hype a few extra weeks. But on the other hand, seeing as they have to fill out 6 TV hours each week and their writing being horrible as they lack long-term planning maybe it's for the best that they don't have 4 extra weeks to build up WM.
I'm still desperately hoping that they will go with Rollins Vs. Sting instead because HHH has had to many failed high-profiled WM matches in his CV to give me any hope that he could bring out a good match out of Sting at WM.
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Post by ShadowAngel on Feb 7, 2015 23:35:32 GMT
What do you thing about Sting/Triple H at Mania? Two guys who shouldn't even be active anymore, are past their prime and will probably work the same "tons of finishers, brawling, nothing else"-style last the last few horrible Undertaker matches. I don't even follow WWE anymore though. Why watch that crap, when NJPW has been putting out one killer show after another and have been doing so for the past few years? (With Day 4 of the 2013 G1 Climax still being the best Wrestling Event of all times) and at the moment WWE tries everything to chase off the fans with Reigns being overhyped and made to be Cena 2.
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Post by KnightWarrior on Feb 17, 2015 0:53:54 GMT
I must amitt Vince is losing his fan base
I hope they re-think Reigns future, He needs mic work & more moves
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Post by Batman666 on Feb 17, 2015 22:38:49 GMT
This is the first time we are in "Wrestlemania Season" and I don't care for the product. There is very little at the moment that interest me. This is otherwise the best part of the year and the time when they usually get their sheit together but I'm just not feeling it this time as I use to otherwise.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 17, 2015 23:02:04 GMT
I´m tempted to watch some old TNA PPV´s from 2006-2008 at the moment. Maybe I do this while drinking some beers and eating potato chips
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Post by Batman666 on Feb 19, 2015 4:13:51 GMT
Personal nostalgic wrestling is awesome Though as you are/were an AJ Styles fan, you should check out his current New Japan run if you haven't
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Post by Deleted on Feb 19, 2015 9:43:40 GMT
Personal nostalgic wrestling is awesome Though as you are/were an AJ Styles fan, you should check out his current New Japan run if you haven't I am still (and will ever be) a fan of AJ! I watched some of his NJPW matches and it´s needless to say that it´s the biggest time of his career. TNA does just crap; Samoa Joe has left the company now.
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Post by ShadowAngel on Feb 23, 2015 23:14:03 GMT
I hope they re-think Reigns future, He needs mic work & more moves He doesn't need micwork. He shouldn't really talk at all since i think he would work best in a Bill Goldberg kind of way: His actions speak for himself and if, he says some one-liner, that should be all. Also: You could have Prime Ric Flair in the WWE today and his promos would suck since the writers have no clue and only produce the most generic sounding Scripts possible. Also it's funny how some fans again rage after tonight's PPV. Did they really expect that WWE would change their long-term plan and let Bryan Danielson win? I´m tempted to watch some old TNA PPV´s from 2006-2008 at the moment. Maybe I do this while drinking some beers and eating potato chips TNA in 2006 was actually pretty good and i thought it might be finally their breakout year. Against all Odds, Lockdown, Slammiversary, Bound for Glory and Turning Point were good PPVs, the others were a bit mediocre but nowhere worse than what the WWE did at the time. Of course then came 2007 and everything fell to pieces with horrible Shows. Bound for Glory 2007 might be the exception (Great Sting - Angle Match) Personally at the moment i'm going Old School, getting into Mid-South/UWF. I'm in the process of downloading about 250+ Gigabytes of their TV Shows from 1982-1987. There's some really great wrestling and it just looks so much better than what the WWF did at the time. I just saw a really good and bloody match between Fantastics & Terry Taylor vs. The Sheepherders and Jack Victory in the flimsieste Cage ever, it looked like it would fall apart any second and still, Tommy Rogers not only managed to climb it but also jumping off from it) It's also interesting to see the Sheepherders in their hardcore, bloody roles and comparing it to their WWF roles as the cheesy Bushwackers. Probably the biggest 180° Turn gimmick wise in History. Watching this also inspired me to boot up TEW 2013 once again with a 1987 Scenario where i now control the UWF and try to save it (in reality it closed down in April of that year), i'm in my second month now, doing pretty good with decent TV and PPV Contracts. I also couldn't resist raiding the WWF and NWA a bit. So i got Bret Hart, Arn Anderson, Tully Blanchard, Barry Windham, The Ultimate Warrior and those two very young talents who are now enhancements but i'm sure Owen Hart will have a great future like his brother and i think this Mark Callous guy is just a perfect fit to play some deadman
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