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Post by Sinistral on Jul 12, 2012 11:12:58 GMT
I was having a look through segaretro.org/Category:Master_System_hardware and I can't but help notice this site seems to have ripped the majority of our hardware database. All content seems to have been uploaded by a user "Black Squirrel" - is this anyone from here? Taking content is fine provided that credit, or at least a link back to the main site is provided, but when having a look though and seeing all of the pictures of in some cases my personal equipment and not even a mention of our site makes me a bit annoyed. Any thoughts on this? Do we need to start "water marking" our images? |
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Post by Kenneth on Jul 12, 2012 11:22:56 GMT
Haaaa, black squirrel. That dude uploaded hundreds and hundreds of scans from www.guardiana.net, including scans of very expensive games I made myself which totally pissed me off. I guess it's the internet... I ended persuading myself that since we are doing all this for preservation purpose, the more people take the pictures from us without asking, the more we are sure those pictures will remain somewhere. But yeah, an email asking if it was okay wouldn't have been too difficult ^^ |
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Post by kungfukid on Jul 12, 2012 18:21:15 GMT
I wouldn't bother too much about it. It is pretty annoying that someone just piggy-backs on your hard work, but it's probably not worth the grief pursuing it. Technically you do have intellectual property rights over the images, so have the right to ask for credit for them, but it's not a problem that's likely to spread to hundreds of people stealing them, or that the site is likely to lose money because of it, so it's likely not worth losing sleep over.
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Post by Stan on Jul 15, 2012 17:25:37 GMT
Yeah, maybe we should watermark. I have a shitton of images to send Ian when I hear back from him, but adding a watermark to them would be easy. I don't mind, necessarily, but after all the time I took to take some of these it's quite irritating.
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Post by rupert on Jul 15, 2012 21:03:05 GMT
Yeah, maybe we should watermark. I have a shitton of images to send Ian when I hear back from him, but adding a watermark to them would be easy. I don't mind, necessarily, but after all the time I took to take some of these it's quite irritating. Although it is annoying (some were my pictures too), I find watermarked pictures very annoying. Unless of course its just something small but then the 'theif' can easily remove it so it's pointless anyway. |
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Post by frankfjs on Jul 21, 2012 14:35:12 GMT
Watermarks are annoying. There are a few programming tricks which makes it difficult for the average person to save pictures though. Basically the whole option of right click -> save picture just does not happen  That wouldn't stop anyone from ripping pictures, easy enough to view the pages source code and pinch the link - even a below average person could just hit the PrintScrn button and paste into an image program. |
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Post by ShadowAngel on Jul 24, 2012 14:39:52 GMT
Watermarks are annoying. There are a few programming tricks which makes it difficult for the average person to save pictures though. Basically the whole option of right click -> save picture just does not happen Problem is that most of this "prevent rightclick" codes are Javascript. Just deactivate Java and you can save the images. There are also tons and tons of programs that automatically download all images of a website, regardless of what picture stealing codes you may have implemented. Also: just press the Print button, paste it in your favourite graphic program, cut the image out and done. There are hundreds of ways to get images from websites. Watermarks aren't the ultimate solution either. Just use Photoshop, look up a "How to remove Watermarks" tutorial on the web and remove them. Takes a lot of time though. But at least it prevents the normal user from stealing the pictures. |
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Post by Stan on Jul 29, 2012 1:35:02 GMT
Yeah, we'll just leave them as is. Watermarking isn't that easy to remove, if you're not skilled enough to do it, it takes a lot of time. If each image is flattened down you'd have to go through and digitally work the images to make them look normal. To the eye it wouldn't look exactly right unless you were really, really good. Plus, you'd have to take the time and doing for each and every image.
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Post by Bock on Jul 29, 2012 8:20:00 GMT
Watermark do not prevent anyone from reusing pictures, how would they?
They just allow pictures to be identified somehow. You can add watermarks and still get your whole database copied, it happens all the time.
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Post by Bock on Jul 29, 2012 19:07:37 GMT
Also, Javascript scripts to prevent normal browsing/saving are the worst thing ever  |
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