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Post by Deleted on Jan 5, 2017 19:42:59 GMT
My theory about the cinema is that back when we used to go in the 90s/early 2000s, things were different. Of course they were. Things always change. When it comes to movies the biggest difference is that trailers back then were teasers, meant to stirr up some interest. Nowadays trailers already contain the best scenes, basically show you the whole plot and in certain genres even show you the antagonist, think back to how movies like Jaws or Halloween were handled including the trailers and compare that to today where they show the antagonist and don't make a secret out of it. When it comes to movies i'm like Michael DeSanta from GTAV prefering the classics and old movies over the crap they puke out today which is mostly remakes, sequels without or just some of the original actors and CGI crap without substance or all of those mixed into one crap of a movie that usually also has a political agenda tied to it (Like that abomination that was "Ghostbusters" last year, the perfect example about everything that is wrong in Hollywood) And my interest in modern movies is extremely low. I bought the Iron Man trilogy recently after a friend recommended it to me (months ago...) and i haven't even touched it yet... My kid made me watch home alone 4.... that was shockingly bad, I don't think any of them was from the first two. You do get the odd gem with today's films, effects are a lot better etc.
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Post by ShadowAngel on Jan 5, 2017 20:54:55 GMT
and taking selfies every 10 seconds 😡 I don't go to theaters anymore (never was a big fan anyway since 99% of them here show movies with german overdub and back in the day cut and censored to shreds which isn't that big of a problem anymore thankfully) but this is a major problem in everything that features a crowd. I've been to a lot of concerts last year and what do i see? People holind gheir blinking phones up, taking pictures, waving it around, most people don't even watch the stage anymore, they way the stage through the camera of their phone...i mean wtf? And where people held up lighters they now hold their phones to make light, it's so....ugh and annoying. Especially in standing room only areas: Everybody in front of you is holding their arms up so they can make videos with their phones, blocking the view for everybody behind them Honestly smart phones where one of the most annoying things ever created. At least mobile phones had such crappy cameras that nobody wanted to use them and barely anybody had a digicam or something.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 5, 2017 23:03:18 GMT
Honestly smart phones where one of the most annoying things ever created. Thank you, I hate these things. I never had one, and I will never get one. I´m still using my normal Samsung camera that I bought back in 2008, and at one point my girlfriend asked why my photos have a better quality than the photos she takes with her smartphone, ´cause her phone has more megapixels On Topic: I prefer every old stuff, movies and cartoon series. I love to watch movies with Bud Spencer and Terence Hill and I have a DVD box of the original Ninja Turtles series. If somebody asks me, I would never go into the cinema watching an Iron Man film or something which is 99% made by computers and prefer an italian western, where actors were actors and no dollies, if you know what I mean.
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Post by Kaunisto on Jan 6, 2017 15:24:52 GMT
I watch plenty of movies on TV, but I've never been much a theater goer (maybe 20 films ever, Star Wars, LotR and such big events) and I don't have proper internet and so no any services. So all the new stuff I usually see about 3 years late.
Like in everything else, I prefer films with scifi, fantasy and lots of violence. I do appreciate art - Kubrick is my favorite director - but most of time good mix of art and entertainment is best.
I recently listed my top 5 movies for a forum and they were (in no particular order):
Once Upon a Time in the West A Clockwork Orange Blade Runner The Cabinet of Dr. Caligari Sunset Boulevard
Had it been top 10, there would've certainly been more than one Tarantino in there.
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Post by ShadowAngel on Jan 6, 2017 17:03:47 GMT
effects are a lot better etc. I have to disagree with that. If anything, effects today are the worst they ever have been because everybody lazily relies on CGI and most of the time it just looks fake, unrealistic or there might even be some visible glitches. Take any old action movie, preferably from the 80's. Take Commando, the last 30 minutes of it, you have all those explosions, fire, blood splatters and it looks great because the explosions are real and now compare it to today's movies, the explosions, the fire, the blood...all computer generated and it looks horrible, they don't even try to make it realistic, either it looks weak or they go over the top making it look like a video game. Or take Ghostbusters. Take the puking ghost from the 2016 movie and compare it to the library ghost from 1984, both were actresses in costumes, in 1984 they used practical effects, puppetry and masks to make the ghost look hideous and scary when it turns, in 2016 you have this blue glowing monstrosity from a Scooby Doo movie, it just looks pathetic. And the problem is also that it just takes away from the impact. When you first saw that T. Rex in Jurassic Park appear it blew you away, it looked so realistic (and they were still mostly puppets, they only used a bit of CGI where it was needed) and when it went on to crash onto the cars and the chase it was a "Holy faeces, this is amazing!" moment while wondering "How did they manage to make it look so awesome?" while today you go "CGI *shrug*" or another example from my favourite movie Rear Window, they filmed it all on a stage, nothing was "real" but it looked like the back alley of an apartment block and the scene with the helicopter coming in, for 1954 looks damn impressive, might not look as great as today but you still wonder how they made that since it wasn't just "let's drop a CGI Helicopter into the scene". Another example: The Terminator. Granted, the first movie was a very low budget affair and it shows but considering you already have to suspend your disbelief (time travelling cyborgs...) when the Terminator puts out that eye and it obviously look like a fake head you can at least say "It's a machine, it's not a human, it might really look like that" while in Terminator Genisys when you see the 1984 scenes with the CGI Arnie he looks so unrealistic and fake, like straight from a video game, it just looks awful. Terminator 2 still looks awesome, real explosions, real fire, fake blood being used for the splatter but also some tasteful high quality CGI work that still looks good. Compare it to Salvation (the Arnie Terminator) or again Genisys.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 6, 2017 18:49:36 GMT
In terminator 2 you can blantantly see Arnie isn't doing half the stunts... specially when he's on that motorbike. I'm not saying all new films are good and some do over use special effects, but they are generally graphically better because technology has got better... aviator was a crap film but the effects where amazing. I don't expect films to look real because it's a film and it's about capturing your imagination etc. everyone is going to be bias towards film preferences as most people have fond memories of certain films etc. Obviously this is just my opinion
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Post by flatapex on Jan 6, 2017 23:46:08 GMT
the majority of films that rely on cgi etc are terrible, especially modern ones.
films are about escapism and story telling
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Post by Kaunisto on Jan 7, 2017 13:03:46 GMT
I agree with ShadowAngel, Jurassic Park looked better than nearly any film since.
Though, as I named The Cabinet of Dr. Caligari one of my favorite movies, that says something about what I think of special effects...
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Post by ShadowAngel on Jan 7, 2017 13:19:34 GMT
In terminator 2 you can blantantly see Arnie isn't doing half the stunts... As i said, it's all about suspension of disbelief. It's even more blatant in TV Shows. In Knight Rider you can always see that it's not David Hasselhoff driving the Car or doing the fights but that doesn't take away the fun. Heck in the A-Team you sometimes see that it's not Mr. T driving but actually a white(!) guy. The same is still true today, barely anybody does his own stunts outside if Sylvester Stallone (famously in First Blood where he broke several ribs and his painful outcry was later used in Golden Axe ) I don't expect films to look real because it's a film and it's about capturing your imagination That's another thing wrong with todays movies: They don't even leave anything to the viewer's imagination. Back in the day movies would leave certain things open and undeclared so the viewer can think about it and come to his own decision. Like Mulholland Drive or the directors cut of Blade Runner. Today everything is spelled out, explained as if the film makers think the audience are stupid little children
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