sega8bit games tournament

[Deleted]

When we will have a new games tournament?

I can give suggestions

[Batman666]

I held the last one, so maybe I'm the one responsible for any new ones. Is there interest for one though I wonder?


Edit:
Of course, if anybody is up for the challenge they can take the initiative.

[Deleted]

Why not to make a tournament by categories?
could be type categories: rpg, action
could be style categories: graphics, music
or innovations: homebrews

or all alternatives

[lorf]

Will Enduro Racer be involved?

[Batman666]

Nov 15, 2014 2:12:37 GMT @segarule2014 said:

Why not to make a tournament by categories?
could be type categories: rpg, action
could be style categories: graphics, music
or innovations: homebrews

or all alternatives

Type categories would be the easiest, especially as there already exists a list on the homepage:
www.smstributes.co.uk/allgamesbygenre.asp

Style would be very subjective and I think somebody like Ian would be better off handling anything like that. The same thing goes for innovations/homebrew, Gordman?

But the same problem/question we ran into last time will come up however we do it, which is, should the matchups be random or ranked? And if ranked how do we rank them to make it fair?

Last time we used the top 100 list as a base, but that was easier to do because we had 15 games per poll in the first round (5 ranked 10 non ranked games), won't be able to do that again.


I actually had a plan of doing a mini-tournament as a follow-up last time, with taking all the games that got 0 votes and having a type of worst of tournament. But that never ended up happening.

Nov 15, 2014 10:07:22 GMT lorf said:

Will Enduro Racer be involved?

Of course, if we do a genre one that would go on the Racing tournament. Enduro Racer made it to the 4th round (last 16) in the tournament we did with all the games.

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Nov 15, 2014 13:02:36 GMT Batman666 said:

The same thing goes for innovations/homebrew, Gordman?

The question is what we should include here:

- Unreleased games
- Homebrews released on cart
- All SMS homebrews that can be played via emulator

I think it´s good to include Digger Chan, Bread & Butter and Porkpolis, just to see how the people like the "new" games.

For the unreleased games: Hook and Lemmings 2: The Tribes for example, were 100% completed by their developers. So why not? This could make another tournament much more exciting.

As I think about that tournament.. I think it´s not old enough to make a new one.
BUT: How about making an event by giving prices to the games (like an academy award event only for SMS games)? Then it´s possible to realize that categories idea from segarule2014.

[Deleted]

But the same problem/question we ran into last time will come up however we do it, which is, should the matchups be random or ranked? And if ranked how do we rank them to make it fair?

What about: The last winner tournament's don't can be choose again?. I think that we must to prize the best in each category. Maybe the members can do apologies to the games before of great final (e.g semi-finals). lorf could to say why vote in Endure Racer and other member Why Road Rash. The final round could be like in olympic games (Gold, silver and bronze medals) for each category. E.g Out run gold, Enduro racer, silver and Road Rash bronze medal in "Racing category". 

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The prizes could be a statue or medal with one icon of last game prized: "Alex Kidd in Miracle World".
All year we can have a games awards.

[Stan]

BROS LET'S DO THIS.

[wayeK]

Nov 15, 2014 23:50:35 GMT Stan said:

BROS LET'S DO THIS.

I'm with Stan the man.. Let's do this like buddhists!

[Batman666]

So far we have these ideas for possible ways to do it.

Academy Awards
We each make a shortlist of ex. 5 games per category and the 5 games with most votes get nominated for best game in that category, which we then vote on.

Tournaments for each game category

Tournaments for each game category without Alex Kidd in Miracle World
Was this how you meant segarule2014?

A tournament like last time but include ALL games even unreleased, homebrew and region exclusives


Anybody else with another idea of how to do it? Will create a poll in a day or so and see which way people prefer.


And again, I would appreciate if anybody has ideas for how we should match the games up if we end up doing tournaments for each game category. We could go with random and just have the luck of the draw decide, or we could try to seed the games to make sure that we don't get Sonic Vs. Alex Kidd in the first round for example. And how do we decide the seeding system? As a mentioned before, the way we did it last time was to use the top 100 list. In theory we could use that again and make sure that no top 100 game meet each other in the first round. But that's just in theory, haven't looked how many top 100 games there are in each category to make that work.

[Batman666]

We could also do a "tournament like last time but include ALL games even unreleased, homebrew and region exclusives" without Alex Kidd in Miracle World. And then let the winner face off against the last tournament champion.


But that feels a bit wrestling gimmicky and I don't know if we would get such a different result.

Alex Kidd in Miracle World is the Hulk Hogan/John Cena of 8-bit gaming, refuses to loose

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Tournaments for each game category without Alex Kidd in Miracle World
Was this how you meant segarule2014?

I mean that AKMW couldn't be champion again. Each year we could have diferents winners than last year.

I don't did think in a versus tournament but each category with all members voting until we have 5 choices. These choices will to final with 1st taking gold medal, 2nd silver and 3rd bronze in category. E.g:

RPG

Dragon Crystal
Golden Axe Warrior
Golvellius: Valley of Doom
High School Kimengumi
Lord of the Sword
Miracle Warriors: Seal of The Dark Lord
Phantasy Star
SpellCaster
Sukeban Deka II
Ultima IV
Y's: The Vanished Omens

In first step -  1 or 2 titles came out by votation:

Dragon Crystal
Golden Axe Warrior
Golvellius: Valley of Doom
High School Kimengumi
Lord of the Sword
Miracle Warriors: Seal of The Dark Lord
Phantasy Star
SpellCaster
Sukeban Deka II

Second step - 1 or 2 titles came out by votation (Who voted in Y's and Ultima will have to vote in others):

Dragon Crystal
Golden Axe Warrior
Golvellius: Valley of Doom
High School Kimengumi
Lord of the Sword
Miracle Warriors: Seal of The Dark Lord
Phantasy Star

3 step - 1 or 2 came out by votation (Who voted in Spellcaster and Sukeban Deka will have to vote in others): 

Semi-final (Whot voted...)

Dragon Crystal
Golden Axe Warrior
Golvellius: Valley of Doom
High School Kimengumi
Lord of the Sword
Miracle Warriors: Seal of The Dark Lord

Final - (member can give opinion why vote in Lord of the Sword for example or any title of the 5 games resting)

Dragon Crystal
Golden Axe Warrior
Golvellius: Valley of Doom
High School Kimengumi
Lord of the Sword
 

Dragon Crystal (Gold)

Golden Axe Warrior (silver)

Golvellius (bronze)

Any member could draw the medal with a alex kidd (last Champion) face in on it.

Same case for all others categories.

PS: in next Year Dragon Crystal not would be included in RPG category, but the medal would have dragons crytal symbol printed.

 

[Transatlantic Foe]

Nov 15, 2014 13:02:36 GMT Batman666 said:

Type categories would be the easiest, especially as there already exists a list on the homepage:
www.smstributes.co.uk/allgamesbygenre.asp

I think Misc needs thinning out - you can pretty much move several into the proper categories. Strategy-like games go into Puzzle and we call it Puzzle/Strategy, Dead Angle and Arcade Smash Hits (66% shooting) into Shooting and someone tell me why Sonic 1 is under Misc! I shouldn't think it's hard to find a category for everything under Misc.

I'd also be in favour of platform-heaving games under Shooting being moved out. New Zealand Story, Star Wars and Zillion really aren't shooters. In fact, the last two are a decent case for whacking Adventure onto the RPG category and shoving them in there.

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I am still for my academy award idea, just because we never did something before^^