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Post by Tears of Opa-Opa on Nov 19, 2010 16:50:31 GMT
Is it ok that I added a few games? I was thinking about adding a few others..
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Post by ninjabearhug on Nov 19, 2010 17:29:15 GMT
Is it ok that I added a few games? I was thinking about adding a few others.. No problem, could you reserve the first post for the high scores though and then reply to the thread with your high score. Makes it easier to keep tidy if it needs editing in the future . The more threads you start at once the less likely you are to get competition though, not everyone likes playing loads of games at once (I do ). Nice score on Out Run too, that's a little better than my best score with a pad .
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Post by Tears of Opa-Opa on Nov 21, 2010 9:03:37 GMT
You guys should set up a basic rules post. Are emulators allowed? This seems obvious that they shouldn't be because of save states and numerous other ways to cheat. Rapid fire? I feel this one should be ok. I would avoid some games just knowing I would have to press the button 10,000+ times per game. Slow motion? I've seen custom made SMS controllers with a pause button so I would think slow motion is quite possible. Slow motion is obvious cheating but this sort of stuff should be clearly stated as not allowed. Point scabbing? forums.twingalaxies.com/viewtopic.php?f=54&t=638This seems like a matter of opinion based on what game you're playing but if you allow it for one game, you should allow it for all games. My Fantasy Zone II score involved some point scabbing but that's the only way to max that games score and you're at risk of spending an hour or two playing and have it blow up in your face by dying. It's not based on sitting and killing enemy's for hours as much as it is that you need to collect a ton of money. I'd say obvious point scabbing that shouldn't be allowed is anything that you can walk away from the game for hours and come back to a huge score. I also gave My Hero a shot tonight and discovered you can literally punch bottles and walk away from your game for hours and return to a massive score. There's also scabbing in My Hero where you can just fight the same guys over and over to boost the score but you're still at risk of dying. I've seen a few scores without a pic. I trust that the scores are real but you really should have a must have pic policy. What controllers can be used? Some controllers have obvious advantages. I'm mainly just wanting to be clear on a lot of this stuff before playing hours of games to find out after the fact that something isn't allowed.
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Post by ninjabearhug on Nov 21, 2010 9:29:15 GMT
As it's not for the rule books, it's never been too strict here. If a game can be left to autoplay, then as far as I'm concerned that is blatant cheating, whereas forcing games to loop and using your own skill to max a game out is fine as far as I'm concerned. Cheats are never allowed in any of the contests, but if someone has cheated, say used the Astro Warrior cheat where you start with the side ships, how can you tell? I'm not bothered either way with emulators, if someone wants to cheat and use a save state, more fool them for not playing the game and therefore not getting the proud feeling of achievement that comes from being a true high scorer . It was decided that the first post for each thread would be updated with specific rules for that game, and also for subsequent high score challenges. For instance if you wanted to add a 'highest round reached' to Fantasy Zone, I will add it for you as a separate leaderboard. As for pics, I agree with you. It's not like in this day and age people don't have access to cameras, if not a digital one then a webcam or a mobile phone camera. I personally take pics of all my high scores, generally because I'm proud of reaching them . I suppose we'd have to have a poll and see what other forum members thought of it before setting it as a rule though. At the end of the day though, this ain't twin galaxies, it's a forum for people who love the Master System and as such the main rule should be to enjoy playing the games, and not to worry about what other people are doing with the game .
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Post by Tears of Opa-Opa on Nov 21, 2010 9:44:36 GMT
Yeah, I'm not trying to set strict rules. I'm basically new here so I'm mainly wondering if I'm allowed to use a rapid fire controller and what other peoples opinions of that are. I used rapid fire for all my scores except Outrun so that is my main concern.
I just think it would be a good idea to have some basic rules for anyone who wants to join in, of course rules should be based off everyone's opinion.
I don't care about Fantasy Zone, I just did that for fun.
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Post by ninjabearhug on Nov 21, 2010 18:08:39 GMT
As far as I'm concerned you can use what you like, I know a lot of members use Mega Drive controllers instead of the SMS pad (me included).
Would be cool to start some 'Peripheral Challenges' though. How far can you get in Cloud Master using the Handle Controller would be fun ;D.
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Post by Transatlantic Foe on Nov 21, 2010 22:03:43 GMT
I generally use the Mega Drive controllers because I have adult hands!
I would happily support the use of emulation, mainly because it means I can use a even more comfortable controller in either my Dreamcast or xbox one. It's easier to pause as well, because you may actually need to get up and do something mid-session - the frantic rush to the pause button is a bit too distracting. It also doesn't limit the inclusion of rare games.
Rapid fire through a controller is a total no-no I'd say though. My experience with these (albeit on the SNES and Mega Drive) has been an increased to the point of unnatural firing rate in shmups so I'd say absolutely no way.
I don't think cheating is much of an issue on a site like this - so I'm undecided on the photos issue. I like to think of it as an additional layer of showing off rather than mandatory means of proof. Although this could be more because I'm suffering both ancient phone syndrome and chronic Microsoft failure to provide working 64bit bluetooth drivers.
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Post by Tears of Opa-Opa on Nov 22, 2010 0:20:05 GMT
I generally use the Mega Drive controllers because I have adult hands! I would happily support the use of emulation, mainly because it means I can use a even more comfortable controller in either my Dreamcast or xbox one. It's easier to pause as well, because you may actually need to get up and do something mid-session - the frantic rush to the pause button is a bit too distracting. It also doesn't limit the inclusion of rare games. Rapid fire through a controller is a total no-no I'd say though. My experience with these (albeit on the SNES and Mega Drive) has been an increased to the point of unnatural firing rate in shmups so I'd say absolutely no way. I don't think cheating is much of an issue on a site like this - so I'm undecided on the photos issue. I like to think of it as an additional layer of showing off rather than mandatory means of proof. Although this could be more because I'm suffering both ancient phone syndrome and chronic Microsoft failure to provide working 64bit bluetooth drivers. I also like to use a Genesis controller for SMS because those SMS pads feel so tiny now days. I actually don't mind if someone uses an emulator seeing the high scores are on the honor system anyways but honestly, I would have tried for a few high scores on an emulator a little sooner but I got the impression that they were not allowed so I waited until I dug out a SMS. With rapid fire, I agree it's an unnatural speed of fire but in certain games I don't see it being any harm. Games like Fantasy Zone and Astro Warrior are just mindless tapping of the button as fast as you can go. So my opinion on that is rapid is OK. If you were to play 5 - 10 games of Astro Warrior trying to get a high score, that's got to equal 10's of thousands of button pushes. In a game like Rocky or Double Dragon then, yes I agree rapid is cheating. There are other shooting games that only allow like 2 or 3 of your bullets on the screen at a time like Rambo. In Rambo you're better off not using rapid because that game is more about single accurate shots. If nothing else maybe when a game is added to the list we should say if rapid is OK to use or not. I'm assuming some of the other Fantasy Zone games were played with rapid. I can still easily get the max score in Fantasy Zone without rapid so it's never seemed like a big deal to me to use rapid for that game and save my thumb from falling off. I actually prefer to play Fantasy Zone with no unlimited trick and I never buy anything except big wings, twin bombs, extra ships and some heavy bombs. I use rapid but I don't buy any gun weapons. In Fantasy Zone II you can actually buy rapid fire from the shop so a rapid controller doesn't seems like a big deal in that one either. More or less what I'm getting at is, I was late in joining the fun of adding high scores and I couldn't find many answers to my questions. I certainly don't want to add a score if someone else is going to think I'm cheating for using rapid so I'd rather find out now and erase my scores.
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Post by ninjabearhug on Nov 22, 2010 8:39:42 GMT
I think using Rapid Fire is fine. I generally use a rapid fire Mega Drive pad, although at the minute I'm using a Korean MD pad because it has a longer cable.
If rapid fire was a new invention that wasn't around when the game was designed then fair enough, I'd say no way, but you could buy the adapters and the pads back then to use on the games when they were new. I only use it on games which you have to press every time you need to fire, I didn't use it on Power Strike for example, because you can keep your finger on the buttons to auto fire.
Basically, if anyone wants to ban rapid fire from being used then you'd have to ban every peripheral other than the SMS pad, and I wouldn't be entering any high score contest if i had to use that thing, my hands dwarve it. Plus you could never prove what pad was used, even if you specified that a picture was needed of the sms with cart in and power on and pad plugged in, how easy would it be to change the pad before taking a photo.
I'm undecided on emulators. The ability to cheat on them is always gonna be there, but at the same time not everyone wants to own piles and piles of SMS games, and some rarer games will never be owned by some players so emulation is the only way they can enjoy those.
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Post by ninjabearhug on Dec 2, 2010 10:47:51 GMT
Right, as the poll has proved that the majority of members (who bothered voting) would like photographic evidence of scores to be implemented, as of today any first place score submitted must be accompanied by photographic evidence. I'll add it to the rules in each thread. Any existing scores will not be affected. Any entries that aren't higher than the existing top score do not need photographic evidence. So crack on, get some high scores and make everyone jealous with the pictures to prove it .
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Post by Stan on Dec 6, 2010 18:37:03 GMT
I've completely updated the site page. All scores are listed for all games that have been played thus far, and all links are active.
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Post by ninjabearhug on Dec 6, 2010 21:18:29 GMT
I've completely updated the site page. All scores are listed for all games that have been played thus far, and all links are active. A few of the scores and scorers need changing mate, I've been updating the first post in this thread every time someone adds a game/posts a new high score so you should go off of that . Tears Of Opa Opa's name only just fits in the scorer's name box ;D.
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Post by Stan on Dec 6, 2010 22:56:47 GMT
Nooooooooo! Okay, no big issue. The major coding was what took the longest amount of time. I can easily plug in new figures. Thanks!
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Post by ninjabearhug on Dec 13, 2011 18:18:42 GMT
I've been neglecting my favourite high score club just lately, just looked through the list and noticed how many games I haven't tried yet! This is all going to change in the new year though, my plan is falling into place nicely and I'm nearly set up to go . I'll update the first post tomorrow and have a quick browse and make sure none of the older scores need updating. Game on !
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Post by ninjabearhug on Feb 24, 2012 13:44:29 GMT
Just updated the list, getting a nice amount of high scores now! If anyone thinks there name should be on there somewhere and it isn't just send me a message! There seems to be a few stand out scorers emerging too, here's a bit of a leaderboard: 1st: ninjabearhug - leading 7 games Joint 2nd: Tears of Opa Opa, brian - leading 6 games 4th: ddevilfingers - leading 4 games Quite happy to be at the top spot but I'd like to be doing better ! I also noticed that there isn't an entry for Kung Fu Kid but yet there has been a thread started - come on people post some scores already .
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