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Post by horseboy on Jul 26, 2010 17:21:26 GMT
Ok, well here we go. This is an attempt to make a definitive major variant list. Let me know of anything I am missing and I will keep this list updated.
Post-Tonka Sega Re-releases
Alex Kidd in Miracle World (Red)
Black Belt (Red)
California Games (Blue, Box variation 1)
California Games (Blue, Box variation 2)
Choplifter (Red)
Double Dragon (Blue)
Enduro Racer (Blue)
Fantasy Zone (Blue)
Fantasy Zone (Red)
Ghostbusters (Blue)
Out Run (Blue)
Phantasy Star (Red)
Rambo First Blood Part II (Blue)
Reggie Jackson Baseball (Blue)
Other Variants
Monopoly ("Mono Poly" label variation)
Psycho Fox ("Psyco Fox" label variation)
Wonder Boy ("Super Wonder Boy Super Monster Land" label variation)
"Sega for the '90's" sticker variants (for those interested)
Afterburner
Alex Kidd in High Tech World
Altered Beast
Aztec Adventure
Captain Silver
Cloud Master
Double Dragon
Gangster Town
Ghostbusters
Global Defense
Golvellius: Valley of Doom
Great Baseball
Great Soccer
Kings Quest
Kung Fu Kid
Miracle Warriors
Missile Defense 3-D
Monopoly ("Monopoly")
Monopoly ("Mono Poly" variant)
Phantasy Star
Power Strike
R-Type
Rambo III
Reggie Jackson Baseball
Shinobi
Shooting Gallery
Vigilante
Walter Payton Football
Wanted
Where in the World is Carmen Sandiego?
Wonder Boy III: The Dragon's Trap
Wonder Boy in Monster Land
Y's
Zaxxon 3D
Zillion
Canadian Releases (WIP)
Alex Kidd in Shinobi World
Basketball Nightmare
Battle Outrun
Bomber Raid
Calfornia Games
Casino Games
The Cyber Shinobi
Dead Angle
Dynamite Dux
Gain Ground
Galaxy Force
Ghostbusters
Golden Axe
Hang On/Safari Hunt
Slap Shot
Wonderboy III:The Dragon's Trap
World Games
World Soccer
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Post by Aypok on Jul 26, 2010 17:36:46 GMT
While it's not exactly what you're after, SMS Power!'s scans museum is a great place to check out. It contains scans of many cover variations and includes information about region. It seems to have undergone a make-over, too. Looks even better, now. www.smspower.org/Scans/IndexIf you have anything not on there, please consider scanning it and submitting it. :) |
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Post by Stan on Jul 28, 2010 14:32:56 GMT
What kind of variations are we talking about? It's nice to include them, but I'm still of the opinion that it really only matters if they're major variants. If you're talking about something like the placement of a registered trademark symbol on the box, rupert has a list of such things I believe.
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Post by horseboy on Jul 28, 2010 19:10:37 GMT
I would be interested in seeing a list of all variants, but I would only be collecting major variants. I would assume "major" is a relative term and means different things to different people, so seeing the different variants would help me decide what I consider major. As long as the box design is the same, I wouldn't consider something like a moved or added trademark symbol as a major variant.
The rereleases are major in my mind. My two Bomber Raid boxes are totally different. My two Kenseiden boxes have totally different stuff on the back and different manuals.
What are your opinions on the "from Tonka" and "Sega for the 90's" stickers? Major variants or not? What all do you consider major variants?
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Post by Aypok on Jul 28, 2010 19:48:59 GMT
As long as the box design is the same, I wouldn't consider something like a moved or added trademark symbol as a major variant. Yeah, that's the consensus. What are your opinions on the "from Tonka" and "Sega for the 90's" stickers? Major variants or not? What all do you consider major variants? Stickers are a hotly-debated issue around here. Some believe that stickers count as a variation, whereas others are of the opinion that only print variations count. It's up to you which floats your water-craft. Going back to the original question: SMS Power! has a section of their wiki set up to track all variations (minor and major alike), which is very cool. I caught a glimpse of the updated version a few weeks ago and was impressed. If you browse their site I'm sure you'll find it. Whether you're a fan of minor or major variations (or, to be honest, if you don't give a monkeys and just want to play the games (Holy faeces! You can play these things?!)), you'll fit in nicely. :) |
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Post by horseboy on Jul 28, 2010 21:16:43 GMT
Wow. That Wiki is either really hard to find or I am an idiot.
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Post by Bock on Jul 29, 2010 4:17:06 GMT
The whole SmsPower site is now a Wiki.
Yet I'm not sure what Aypok is talking about, because although we certainly have plans to setup information about major and minor variations, there's almost nothing about it on the site now. We are still working on the system and taking decision about it.
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Post by Maxim on Jul 29, 2010 16:12:07 GMT
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Post by Aypok on Jul 29, 2010 18:23:55 GMT
No, that's not the one I was thinking of. I do remember that, but I'm certain that I came across something similar but much more neatly laid out. Perhaps my brain is faltering (again), because I can't now find it. Perhaps I was mentally fusing the new (new to me, at least) Games wiki with the variations wiki Maxim mentioned above... But I can see the page in my mind and it looks different. I guess the lesson here is to not trust my brain. Sorry for the confusion/lies, guys. :/ Even so, that Games wiki section is great resource. |
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Post by Bock on Jul 31, 2010 4:46:25 GMT
Even so, that Games wiki section is great resource. Remember we are always looking for contributors and adding people on the Wiki editor list on request. Its a great feeling when random strangers comes in and add stuff to the site. :) |
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Post by Stan on Aug 9, 2010 5:37:07 GMT
Yeah that site is so much better, really impressed with the work you guys have done. Well, so yeah, it's pretty much been said already. I consider a major variation to be something that really marks the variant as different. The blue rereleases in America, for example, are CLEARLY different. Different cartridge label, different insert, and different manual. The "Sega for the 90s" stickers aren't really variants, they're just stickers. By that logic you could include any Euro game with a "Sega Classic" sticker and the like on it a variant, but it's just things they used to get rid of old stock and throw into bargain bins. The 90s stickers were basically the same thing. After manufacturing the rereleases, Sega figured it pointless to dump more money into what they were doing for the SMS, so they just took old stock and tagged it with stickers. Something like that, or the UPC on the "US" Sonic I don't consider to be variants. Something that makes it different and really sets it apart is what I'm talking about, and usually that means a clear alteration to the cartridge label (less likely), manual (sometimes), and/or insert (highly likely, the most usual variant type). The Robocop/Terminator variant "classic version" for example is only different due to the insert, but damn how hard it is to find that thing.
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Post by grolt on Aug 10, 2010 8:24:00 GMT
My two Bomber Raid boxes are totally different. My two Kenseiden boxes have totally different stuff on the back and different manuals. I'm guessing the Bomber Raids you are talking about are the Canadian/European white multi-lingual cover and the black US Activision cover...but what's this about Kenseiden? What's different about that one? A few years ago I made this thread that points out the minor differences between covers in the US: shinobiman.proboards.com/index.cgi?action=display&board=general&thread=1370&page=1Aside from re-releases or the Tonka sticker though, I really haven't come across any major changes outside of odd print defects. |
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Post by Stan on Aug 10, 2010 15:33:56 GMT
Are the print defects consistent or do you just mean something occasional you come across?
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Post by grolt on Aug 10, 2010 17:26:33 GMT
Are the print defects consistent or do you just mean something occasional you come across? Occasional, like the Zillion manual I have that has several segments that are just outlines because the blue ink wasn't filled in. Stuff like that. |
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Post by Estimated Prophet on Aug 10, 2010 21:11:24 GMT
There are some games that have different colored ink used for the manuals (blue or black.) Double Dragon comes to mind.
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Pretty soon I'll be removing that old dev wiki and the link will be dead.
